Apollonian
Guest Columnist
For Butz: Evidence, Truth, Reality Are Proper Issues
(Apollonian, 21 Feb 06)
Mike Beder [fm Daily Northwestern, 21 Feb 06, "Butzgate..." below copied] is funny: here we have a repugnant group of people, hated in all lands and throughout history, who are determined to impose an anti-Christ religion of lies, holohoax, and gee whiz, but Mike Beder is so disappointed the Christian American people won't just lie down and accept it; AWWWWW. Ck codoh.com, ihr.org, and Zundelsite.org.
Now let me get to the real nub of things: EVIDENCE for holohoax. Prof. Butz does the world good and right by laying out the simple truth: holohoax is lies, pure and simple, the long and short of it. But Prof. Butz gives the actual history and circumstances, all with numerous references and citations.
Now we get such as Beder who whines and pleads
, like a child, his allegations about his "family" who assured
him they suffered so. But facts are facts, and Jews (World Jewish Congress) were quite upfront about DECLARING WAR against Germany as early as 1933 when prominent Jew organizations actively worked to instigate the US, Britain, and France to eventually declare war. Ck the "Forced War" by David Hoggan. FDR (Roosevelt--whose ancestors were Jews) ordered American warships to fire upon German vessels long, long before Pearl Harbor.
Butz simply gives the details and references. Jews are collectivists by religion, and communism-bolshevism is/was just a more streamlined and secular form of such Judaism. Thus Jews were rightfully suspected and repudiated by the native Germans who genuinely feared the Jew-bolshevik collossus in Russia, for example, being built and subsidized by the West, ESPECIALLY the US. (Ck Antony C. Sutton, "Wall Street And The Bolshevik Revolution.")
It is significant
to note there have never been any verified witnesses to any German official policies to kill Jews, and this
glaring lack of evidence is now simple matter of court proceedings, as fm the Ernst Zundel trials in Canada of 1984 and 1988--and indeed all and any court proceedings anywhere. ("Nuremburg Trials" were notorious kangaroo courts which murdered the German leadership so as to eliminate any witnesses). Jews must face fact world evermore knows they are liars, pure and simple, now especially with the INTERNET.
Butz again, just presents the facts with copious references. Jew-bolsheviks murdered millions of Russian Christians in the 20's, millions of Ukrainian Christians in the 30's then millions and millions more German Christians in the 40's. Ck James Baque, "Other Losses," and "Crimes And Mercies."
But the present-day oligarchal corporate mass-media, manned and controlled overwhelmingly by Jews, simply a well-known fact (Ck &
quot;Who Rules America?" on frontpage, bottom of Natall.org), repeats, repeats, and repeats, incessantly and constantly the holohoax lies and government-enforced
popular religion now funded by
American taxpayers (holohoax museums, as in in Wash. DC, also in California and other places), this as Jews and ACLU steadily work to suppress the people's Christianity. These are the facts of present-day life, citizens, students, and comrades.
CONCLUSION: Beder pretends he's so "dismayed"--well good: it means Jew lies and holohoax false religion aren't going over too well and too easily. For there's yet more behind this false Jew anti-Christ religion of holohoax: it has to do with the United Nations beast-enforcer and the Federal Reserve Bank (Fed) COUNTERFEITING scam. (Ck JBS.org.) But those are stories (regarding UN and Fed) all their own, which Beder would no doubt be pained to get into all over again. Poor Beder, the truth about reality is so difficult
for him--maybe he should look for another job. Ck for more Apollonian essays on NewNation.org (under "commentary") and WhiteAlert.com. Thanks for ur attn. Honest elections and death to the Fed.
Apollonian, combat-scholar/theologian, part-time exorcist, Christian patriot
--------below copied fm Daily Northwestern 21 Feb 06, Beder III----------
Butzgate leaves dismay in wake
bY Michael Beder February 21, 2006
The last few weeks of the all-consuming Butzgate uproar have been among the most discouraging experiences of my two-and-a-half years at Northwestern.
Why? First and foremost by far is Arthur Butz himself. My grandmother survived the Nazi concentration camps; most of her family, including her parents and all but one of her siblings, weren’t so lucky. So I have no trouble understanding how infuriating it is that a professor can trade on this university’s good name to conclude that the Naz
is weren’t really trying to kill millions of my people — to say nothing of the additional millions of non-Jews also killed in the camps — using theories and sources that have mostly been discredited (including by Emory University Prof.
Deborah Lipstadt, who wrote in this space yesterday).
The outrage his comments sparked was heartfelt, genuine and well-justified. It has taken the form of forums, letters to the editor and petitions among students and faculty who repudiate Butz’s views.
Some of the petitions call on him to resign, although all acknowledge that his tenure and the importance of academic freedom prevent NU from firing him. Just in the pages of this newspaper, Butz has been called a crank, an embarrassment and — in University President Henry Bienen’s memorable and apt description — “odious.” And that’s just a sampling.
As far as I’m concerned, Butz deserves every word of it. Freedom of speech cuts both ways. But journalist
ic principles also say that when someone is attacked in your paper — not just the man’s views in general, but the man specifically and by name —you should make every effort to present his response. That this principle apparently isn’t self-
evident is discouraging as well, and a comment on how poorly the public understands journalism. We gave Butz a guest column, and we ran an editorial a few days later explaining why we did so. Cue the next firestorm.
People on both sides misinterpreted and twisted our words. On the one hand, some of Butz’s supporters tried to claim us as their champion; on the other, groups both on and off campus, including the Anti-Defamation League, denounced us as irresponsible. Much of the criticism was focused on our statement that “the facts used were all verified, even if (Butz) drew horrendous, misguided conclusions from them.” Critics interpreted that to mean that we were claiming to verify Butz’s view of the Holocaust. Pay no attention
to that second clause, I suppose, or to our explicit statement that we didn’t doubt the truth of the Holocaust.
What we actually meant was that we checked Butz’s specific assertions. Yes, a chemist named Germar Rudolf is in prison for violating Ger
man laws against denying the Holocaust. Yes, Timothy Ryback wrote in The Wall Street Journal that “there is little forensic evidence proving homicidal intent” at Auschwitz. (Although the quote is out of context. Ryback goes on to explain that “the Nazis were scrupulous when it came to obscuring the ‘Final Solution’ in bureaucratic euphemism and also dismantling or obliterating their machinery of death.” No, none of this means we chose “to provide legitimacy to the views of a Holocaust denier,” as the ADL asserts. No, I don’t particularly appreciate the implication that I’m an anti-Semite — and yes, I do take it personally.
If nothing else the whole fiasco has gotten people talking. Some
thing encouraging could still come out of all this. Maybe more people will sign up for Prof. Peter Hayes’ course on the history of the Holocaust. And if the newly launched Never Again campaign really takes off, maybe some of this will have been worth it.
The o
ther alternative is for us all to go through the same vicious cycle every few years. Now that’s a discouraging thought.
Campus Editor Michael Beder is a Medill junior. He can be reached at m-beder@northwestern.edu.
(Apollonian, 21 Feb 06)
Mike Beder [fm Daily Northwestern, 21 Feb 06, "Butzgate..." below copied] is funny: here we have a repugnant group of people, hated in all lands and throughout history, who are determined to impose an anti-Christ religion of lies, holohoax, and gee whiz, but Mike Beder is so disappointed the Christian American people won't just lie down and accept it; AWWWWW. Ck codoh.com, ihr.org, and Zundelsite.org.
Now let me get to the real nub of things: EVIDENCE for holohoax. Prof. Butz does the world good and right by laying out the simple truth: holohoax is lies, pure and simple, the long and short of it. But Prof. Butz gives the actual history and circumstances, all with numerous references and citations.
Now we get such as Beder who whines and pleads
, like a child, his allegations about his "family" who assured
him they suffered so. But facts are facts, and Jews (World Jewish Congress) were quite upfront about DECLARING WAR against Germany as early as 1933 when prominent Jew organizations actively worked to instigate the US, Britain, and France to eventually declare war. Ck the "Forced War" by David Hoggan. FDR (Roosevelt--whose ancestors were Jews) ordered American warships to fire upon German vessels long, long before Pearl Harbor.
Butz simply gives the details and references. Jews are collectivists by religion, and communism-bolshevism is/was just a more streamlined and secular form of such Judaism. Thus Jews were rightfully suspected and repudiated by the native Germans who genuinely feared the Jew-bolshevik collossus in Russia, for example, being built and subsidized by the West, ESPECIALLY the US. (Ck Antony C. Sutton, "Wall Street And The Bolshevik Revolution.")
It is significant
to note there have never been any verified witnesses to any German official policies to kill Jews, and this
glaring lack of evidence is now simple matter of court proceedings, as fm the Ernst Zundel trials in Canada of 1984 and 1988--and indeed all and any court proceedings anywhere. ("Nuremburg Trials" were notorious kangaroo courts which murdered the German leadership so as to eliminate any witnesses). Jews must face fact world evermore knows they are liars, pure and simple, now especially with the INTERNET.
Butz again, just presents the facts with copious references. Jew-bolsheviks murdered millions of Russian Christians in the 20's, millions of Ukrainian Christians in the 30's then millions and millions more German Christians in the 40's. Ck James Baque, "Other Losses," and "Crimes And Mercies."
But the present-day oligarchal corporate mass-media, manned and controlled overwhelmingly by Jews, simply a well-known fact (Ck &
quot;Who Rules America?" on frontpage, bottom of Natall.org), repeats, repeats, and repeats, incessantly and constantly the holohoax lies and government-enforced
popular religion now funded by
American taxpayers (holohoax museums, as in in Wash. DC, also in California and other places), this as Jews and ACLU steadily work to suppress the people's Christianity. These are the facts of present-day life, citizens, students, and comrades.
CONCLUSION: Beder pretends he's so "dismayed"--well good: it means Jew lies and holohoax false religion aren't going over too well and too easily. For there's yet more behind this false Jew anti-Christ religion of holohoax: it has to do with the United Nations beast-enforcer and the Federal Reserve Bank (Fed) COUNTERFEITING scam. (Ck JBS.org.) But those are stories (regarding UN and Fed) all their own, which Beder would no doubt be pained to get into all over again. Poor Beder, the truth about reality is so difficult
for him--maybe he should look for another job. Ck for more Apollonian essays on NewNation.org (under "commentary") and WhiteAlert.com. Thanks for ur attn. Honest elections and death to the Fed.
Apollonian, combat-scholar/theologian, part-time exorcist, Christian patriot
--------below copied fm Daily Northwestern 21 Feb 06, Beder III----------
Butzgate leaves dismay in wake
bY Michael Beder February 21, 2006
The last few weeks of the all-consuming Butzgate uproar have been among the most discouraging experiences of my two-and-a-half years at Northwestern.
Why? First and foremost by far is Arthur Butz himself. My grandmother survived the Nazi concentration camps; most of her family, including her parents and all but one of her siblings, weren’t so lucky. So I have no trouble understanding how infuriating it is that a professor can trade on this university’s good name to conclude that the Naz
is weren’t really trying to kill millions of my people — to say nothing of the additional millions of non-Jews also killed in the camps — using theories and sources that have mostly been discredited (including by Emory University Prof.
Deborah Lipstadt, who wrote in this space yesterday).
The outrage his comments sparked was heartfelt, genuine and well-justified. It has taken the form of forums, letters to the editor and petitions among students and faculty who repudiate Butz’s views.
Some of the petitions call on him to resign, although all acknowledge that his tenure and the importance of academic freedom prevent NU from firing him. Just in the pages of this newspaper, Butz has been called a crank, an embarrassment and — in University President Henry Bienen’s memorable and apt description — “odious.” And that’s just a sampling.
As far as I’m concerned, Butz deserves every word of it. Freedom of speech cuts both ways. But journalist
ic principles also say that when someone is attacked in your paper — not just the man’s views in general, but the man specifically and by name —you should make every effort to present his response. That this principle apparently isn’t self-
evident is discouraging as well, and a comment on how poorly the public understands journalism. We gave Butz a guest column, and we ran an editorial a few days later explaining why we did so. Cue the next firestorm.
People on both sides misinterpreted and twisted our words. On the one hand, some of Butz’s supporters tried to claim us as their champion; on the other, groups both on and off campus, including the Anti-Defamation League, denounced us as irresponsible. Much of the criticism was focused on our statement that “the facts used were all verified, even if (Butz) drew horrendous, misguided conclusions from them.” Critics interpreted that to mean that we were claiming to verify Butz’s view of the Holocaust. Pay no attention
to that second clause, I suppose, or to our explicit statement that we didn’t doubt the truth of the Holocaust.
What we actually meant was that we checked Butz’s specific assertions. Yes, a chemist named Germar Rudolf is in prison for violating Ger
man laws against denying the Holocaust. Yes, Timothy Ryback wrote in The Wall Street Journal that “there is little forensic evidence proving homicidal intent” at Auschwitz. (Although the quote is out of context. Ryback goes on to explain that “the Nazis were scrupulous when it came to obscuring the ‘Final Solution’ in bureaucratic euphemism and also dismantling or obliterating their machinery of death.” No, none of this means we chose “to provide legitimacy to the views of a Holocaust denier,” as the ADL asserts. No, I don’t particularly appreciate the implication that I’m an anti-Semite — and yes, I do take it personally.
If nothing else the whole fiasco has gotten people talking. Some
thing encouraging could still come out of all this. Maybe more people will sign up for Prof. Peter Hayes’ course on the history of the Holocaust. And if the newly launched Never Again campaign really takes off, maybe some of this will have been worth it.
The o
ther alternative is for us all to go through the same vicious cycle every few years. Now that’s a discouraging thought.
Campus Editor Michael Beder is a Medill junior. He can be reached at m-beder@northwestern.edu.